As I was reading Laotian Teacher, Karmadiva’s post of “Why should we put up with racial discrimination,” which referred to an old article back in 2000 of “John McCain’s racist remark very troubling” On his campaign, Sen. John McCain told reporters, “I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.” … Contrary to McCain’s attempt to narrowly define “gook” to mean only his “sadistic” captors, this term has historically been used to describe all Asians.
There’re many good questions raised in her post, her very word “However, since it is targeting Asians, it is no big deal? Where is our “Al Sharpton” ? Who is going to stand up for the Asian America population? Just because we do not protest everything does not mean that we do not care how we are treated. As a member of the Asian community I find it unfair and disappointing that our feelings are not being considered and our opinions are not being heard. Are Asians underrepresented? Are we still invisible? Do people see us as a stepping stone? Do we give this impression that we are too accepting? Are we too nice? Are we indifferent?”
I know exactly what she is talking about and a lot of it has to do with how we perceived ourselves as well, just like I’m Laotian, I’m proud to tell people this, even though we might be one of the poorest countries, but really, there’s nothing to be ashamed of, that’s who I am. As for my blog, I can easily pass for a Thai blogger, obviously I wrote more about Thai because it’s mostly translated articles from Thai magazines, but I choose not to, I’m not ashamed of who I am, I kind of like the sound to it on the Internet that I’m a Laotian blogger, it’s a nice ring, in my opinion.
Sadly some Laotians don’t like to consider themselves Laotians, especially the ones that were born here. I knew of a young man that’s making a name for himself, his mom is part Thai, but was born in Laos, she considered herself Thai, even though she came to the US as a Laotian refugee, just like me, what’s wrong with telling people that you’re Laotian, that you’re a refugee, there’s nothing to be ashamed of, but that’s her choice in life and I think his mom’s mentality rubbed off on him, if you were to ask him, he is an American, and if were to ask for his nationality, then he is Thai. I believe this was what he told numerous magazines that interviewed him. Where is this thinking coming from, his parents, why Thai? Obviously ashamed to be Laotian is all I can think of.
I guess sometimes I don’t know how to react to people when they tell me that they’re American, when they obviously looked Asian. Just like the lady that made a comment on one of my posts that I wrote at LaoVoices, her very word, “And BTW, this was written by an American….. “, first thing that came to mind for most of us was that she is a white person, call me racist if you like; since I’m familiar with their organization and checked their staffs before writing about them, I knew she is Asian. Like in this case, what’d you think of an Asian person that wouldn’t even acknowledge that she’s Asian? She might be correct in the sense that she lives in America, and that she is an American citizen, but not politically correct in the sense that I think she should identify herself a bit more, such as Chinese American, Korean American, or Japanese American, etc.
If someone was to ask me of what I am, and my replied to them was, “I’m American”, the reaction that I’d get would be a confusing expression on their face, and they’d say, “No, I mean, what nationality are you?”, then I would say, “I’m Laotian”, but why go through the trouble of saying all that, what’s wrong with telling people that you’re Laotian to begin with. There might be an argument that what about the ones that were born here in the US or mixed, okay, then you’re Laotian American, would you be ashamed to tell people that your parents are Laotians, if not, then you shouldn’t be ashamed to tell people that you’re Laotian American, or American Born Laotian (ABL), just like some of my Chinese friends called themselves ABC, American Born Chinese.
I think Asians are represented well in Colleges, Universities, and offices (well paid job) in big cities, but where are their voices? My thought on this is that we’ve so many nationality, and not necessary identifying with one another. Just like some of the Hmong don’t like Laotians because of personal experiences and here we’re from the same country, Laos. One of my brother in-laws, he considered himself Chinese, and would feel insulted if we ever call him Vietnamese. He is one of the nicest people and you just can’t help but to love him, but he’s got his own personal reason and I’m not sure as to why he feels this way, his whole family feel the same way. Why did I think he is Vietnamese, he’s born in Vietnam, can speak the language, left the country during war time, came to the US as a Vietnamese refugee, but it’d be such an insult if we’d say that he is Vietnamese, and I can’t say that he likes Vietnamese, for many obvious reasons, he wouldn’t even tell people that he’s from Vietnam.
As for Americans, most of us must have heard this before, “All you Asians look alike”, do we feel insulted, I would assume some would, but as for me I don’t feel insulted because I can forgive ignorance, maybe we all look alike to them, but to say this to other group, you can bet that you’d hear things about it; most of us don’t get upset because we don’t carry chip on our shoulder or is it because some of us are Buddhist and were taught to walk the middle path in life.
So where’s our voice, we don’t seem to have a lot, and maybe because we want to be liked, and want to belong and to complaint about things would only draw attention to ourselves, or maybe the ones that have voice don’t considered themselves Asians anymore, because they’re Americans.




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October 5, 2007 at 5:12 pm
Laotian Teacher
Ginger all very good points expressed here. I agree that it’s weird for an Asian to say they are American when they are asked what they are. When someone asks me, ” What are you?” I always say Laotian. Then if they want to hear more I tell them I’m a naturalized citizen. I think it’s important for us to be proud of where we come from. You are right we shouldn’t be ashamed to say we are Laotian. I knew two girls in high school who we called koun cowl (white folks) because they acted like it. They only spoke English and when we try to speak to them in Lao they would act like they didn’t understand. They did not follow Laotian custumes and etiquette. Their parents would speak to them in English as well. It was weird to me that they would shun being.
I agree that if we were to tell people we are Laotian American that would save a lot of questions and problems. I’m glad that I have found a place, here and at Lao Voices to express my opinions and points of views as a Laotian who is proud of her heritage and culture and also proud of being an American. Even though I was born in Laos, I have been able to walk that ” middle path” because I have been able to balance my Laotian beliefs and custumes with that of my American ideals.
October 5, 2007 at 7:47 pm
amphone
In Ving Jun (Vientiane), when I was young, I remember we have a large Chinese community, Indian community, Vietnamese community, but we don’t have Thai community. The Thai-Lao, Lao-Thai, Lao-Isan or Thai-Isan, and what ever else that got caught somewhere along the line. I remember my dad had a lot of friends who are Chinese who are born and raised in Laos. It was always nice to see them coming over. They are were also friends of my dad and uncle. I listed to them talk in Laotian ,fluently and very formal. They were the nicest Lao whose ancestry is of China. They were proud Laotians.
Thirty years ago. A lot of people from the other side of the Mekong were proud Laotian living in Laos and making a life for themselves. We were one big happy family. They were part of our community.
It seemed that Lao-Chinese are proud Laotians. I don’t know what the …. happen when those Chinese from Pekse got to the US. They just left us and don’t know us anymore. When we ran into them at dim sum, at Chinese restaurant,… the moment they noticed us being Laotians, they stopped talking Laotian and start speaking in Chinese or English. Odd, but true. Do we smell, or something? They ate the heck out of padek when we not looking. Love that sticky rice too.
Don’t get me wrong, I understand why thing the way it is. I figure a lot of people came to Laos under many circumstances, background, and many different national origin; there were many tribes, ethnics and nationality in Laos. They all came through different passages. Some were just passing through when they got caught up in the crisis. It just so happen that my ancestry came to Laos much much longer than the others. Beside, all these Lao or Thai thing just happen not too long ago. I remember stories people my grandparents’s age shared about the time when everyone is Lao or something else. Not this narrowed down to being just Thai or Lao. Everyone called themselves Lao proudly, “koi pen kon Lao”. Modern name for Siamese is Thai. Who here is a true Siamese, let see some short hands here. I met quite a few in my life time. They are very nice people. I met a few Mon too. Cool people.
We all proud to be who we are. Laotian or no Laotian, at least remember Laos. If his mom, who is part Thai (what’s that?), say they are Thai, then they are Thai. What is a proud Thai person came to the US under refugee status? She is neither Laotian or Thai. She just made up her mind who is want to be. Good for her. For him. I don’t know. Identity crisis. I think.
October 6, 2007 at 5:51 am
K
I think part of me is Thai (the looks) or I come from Vietnam. I have 10% blood in Chinese (and I don’t speak Chinese) but wait, no I am Spanish (because Spain “colonized” the Philippines), I’m American (because I can speak English?). I can be everything I want. Regardless, stay true to yourself, we can act, eat like the Whites, but if we represent ourselves as Asian, I’d say let’s show the world that we are the most friendliest, happiest, copper-colored skin, beautiful people on this planet, hahaha. I must admit, whenever someone assumed I am some other Asian, I find it really fascinating. While living here in HK for quite a while now, I consider myself half as “The Local” and the other as Filipino.
Be proud of your skin.
October 6, 2007 at 6:50 am
Ginger
Hi Karmadiva, I’m glad that I was born in Laos, there’s a connection there for me somehow and when I speak to other Laotians, whether on the Internet or real life about our past, it seems that there’s always stories to share. This is one good thing about blogging also, we can throw issues out there, and there’re people that will share their perspective in life with us, I think it broadens our way of thinking.
I think how we raised our children is also important, I knew of a family that both children were born here in the US, and they speak fluent Lao, both are still in HS, their parents take them back to visit Laos often, made me jealous that I’ve not had that opportunity yet, but that time will come for me soon.
Hi Amphone, BTW, I’m part Chinese, but don’t mind me because I might be that Lao-Chinese Pakxa that you’re talking about, but I don’t speak Chinese. Lol. I don’t think we smell like Padek, if any of us, it’d have to be Darly because she eats Tum Buk Houng almost everyday, they say you’re what you eat, then technically speaking, you smell what you eat also.
As for the young man that I was talking about, since I knew him, he is the sweetest person, but I doubt if he is like that to most Laotians. His mom’s social circle in the US has always been around Thai people, so she picked up the Thai accent and when she speaks Lao to me, it sounds funny because Lao people don’t talk like that, but she thinks I speak funny because I still have that strong Lao southerner accent, but I think it actually sounds nice and I had people telling me in the past that it sounds nice. I think it’s difficult trying to be someone that you’re not because then you don’t know which lie you told, and who you told to, at the end, it’s just a lot of work IMO.
K, from what I gathered from reading your blog, you like to think of yourself as a tourist, and I think it’s a good thing because there are always new things to explore. I’m happy with the color of my skin, I’m very tan all year round, but more so in the summer, and my American friends are jealous of my complexion because they’ve to go to tanning bed, and one is battling with skin cancer right now because of her fair complexion and tanning bed. I’m always proud of myself, and as I get older (or over the hill), I realized that happiness comes from within and it’s not about the number of friends that you’ve, or the material processions, high paying job, etc. it’s about how you perceive yourself, if you’re happy then it doesn’t matter what other people think of you, it’s more important how you think of yourself.
Blogging is a great way to share things with friends, even if we’re just blogger’s friends; I just can’t imagine you’d leave us.
October 6, 2007 at 8:45 am
amphone
As far as social circle goes, people like to feel a sense of belonging. I think his mom feel comfortable being a full Thai again. Since Thai-Lao, Thai-Isan can identify with both, she got choices. It’s okay for him to be whoever he wants to be. A per should stay true to his or herself. Just don’t embarrass yourself so much by not knowing what to say when ask a simple question.
I am reading a book about Genghis Khan. Its fascinating to find that the Altai mountian is just a few miles from the big fellow’s home . I probably one of those men who was a part of his Mongol horde raiding and plundering. This thought made me proud. The Lao roots which existed along the Altai mountains got shifted southward some point in time.
A blog is an outlet for me to communicate with other Asian out there in the world. A blog is also a way to communicate with myself. Sort like a dialogue with number one (me). I am aware that other people could be reading tentatively what I wrote. Being a hardcore Laotian man (Laotian born in Laos, want to see Laos and its people prosper and happy), I know to steer clear of political stuffs. Who ever over yonder are just too sensitive to Lao men who care about his land of birth. Anyway, here I am….Sometime I am embarrassed because I shard too much of my inner thoughts. But I found out that it’s a good way to be truthful to myself. What I say on here can be countered or second. Here, everyone seems to be pretty good at giving comment and feedback. They say, in this day in time, a friend can be found in different places. Back then I used to go to the club with some friends and look for the a friend. I never like it that way. I did it anyway.
October 6, 2007 at 2:51 pm
Laotian Teacher
Good afternoon to all. Interesting thoughts floating around. It’s nice to be able to discuss our thoughts and ideas because it’s stimulating. Also, for me the potential to have others touch my life as well as me touching their life is priceless. Just knowing that our thoughts, actions, ideas and motivations can help others and vice versa uplifts me more than any material things I can attain. One of my favorite life strategist and author Stephen R. Covey describes this co-dependent relationship between people ” The more deeply you understand people, the more you will appreciate them, the more reverent you will feel about them. To touch the soul of another human being is to walk on holy ground.”
I think all of us can agree with K that staying true to ourselves is the most important thing. To me being true to myself, family, friends, and culture is a sacred committment I will not break.
Amphone there’s a new book that just came out on Genghis Khan. I love reading about those amazing people because they have such a strong will to survive and beat the odds. Also,I believe our ancestors are from Mongolia which is where the Khan is from!
October 6, 2007 at 11:33 pm
amphone
Hi, Karmadiva. Yes, I often told the Lao came from that region. I will check the book out. I love history. History relaxes me. My favorite history book is the Bible. This is because I don’t have a copy of pa thai pee dok to read. Today we say our final good bye to my friend’s dad. He is a good son of Laos. He is a good man. I am sad to see his wife and children cry. He is a devout Lutheran. He had gone to be with God. The Laotian Lutheran preacher did a great job. The service was with loving care. The Laotian Lutheran community gathered to pay the last respect. In my mind I captured the history of Laos.
October 7, 2007 at 12:30 am
Laotian Teacher
Amphone, I am sorry about your loss. A student at my school also passed away last week and his memorial was today so it seems sadness is passing through our lives lately. Everytime there is a death it reminds me of the fraility of life and the importance of living our life to the fullest each and everyday. It is comforting to know when someone passes away that they have a strong faith in God. His physical life might have ended, but his spiritual one has just started. I’m sure your friend had touch many lives just as the young man who passed away. When it is my time to go I hope that I will able to say that I have done as much as I had set out, I have seen what I had wanted, and be who I can live with. Remember, “One day your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure its worth watching.”
October 7, 2007 at 12:42 am
amphone
Yes, he had touch many lives. His friends and family will miss him dearly. I remember a couple of years ago. I was helping him build his fish pond in his back yard. It was a double layer one. We had so much fun. Thanks you and I am sorry too about your student.
October 8, 2007 at 6:31 am
Ginger
Hi Amphone and Karmadiva, thanks for sharing your opinions here, you two have always been very generous and I think it’s great that we can talk about things in our blogs or express our opinions on each others’ blog, we might have to get use to each other’s writing style at first, but once we’ve that, I think we’ve an understanding how things are. I knew about Amphone’s loss, but not your student, so sorry to hear. I think coming to learn about the death of someone closed to us made us realize how precious life is and made us appreciate living life more, I knew it was like that for me.
As far as sharing what we write, I would only share what makes us feel comfortable and shouldn’t force anything. This should be more of a free writing style but I think sometimes it’s difficult because people knew what you look like, and in that case, then sharing ideas might be a better approach in our writing.
October 8, 2007 at 6:45 pm
amphone
Thanks, …will take the suggestion. Sounds good to me.
October 8, 2007 at 8:15 pm
Ginger
You’re welcome Amphone, I never feel that I’m sharing too much.
October 8, 2007 at 11:28 pm
Laotian Teacher
Ginger and Amphone, I never feel like I’m sharing too much because I only share what I am comfortable with. Since I’m pretty open-minded about sharing my feelings, emotions, and thoughts I don’t have a problem with self-expression as you both can see. I know it might sound weird but sometimes when people don’t know what we look like, we are more likely to be free in our thoughts and words. Sometimes, I show my pics and sometimes I don’t. It really doesn’t matter what we look like, it’s what comes from our hearts that is most important.
October 9, 2007 at 12:13 am
Ginger
>>>I know it might sound weird but sometimes when people don’t know what we look like, we are more likely to be free in our thoughts and words.
Karmadiva, I don’t think it sounds weird; I do it all the time, if you don’t want my honest opinion or the truth, my truth that is, just don’t ask me because you might not want to hear what I’ve to say. Lol. My question is, does it sound weird talking to or knowing someone by his or her pen name only?
October 10, 2007 at 1:04 am
Laotian Teacher
Ginger, for some people they can not talk to a total stranger. I guess, it can be construe as strange knowing someone by his or her pen name only, but for me when I click with someone it doesn’t matter. I have a habit meeting people at the strangest place. Do you believe that we meet people at certain time in our lives at certain place for a reason? For example, I met you and Darly at a time when I needed inspiration to pick up my writing again. If I had come across both of your sites two or three years ago, I would not have been ready to be inspired to write because of what was going in my life. In a sense, you guys came into my life at the perfect moment where I needed and wanted to write. You guys are strangers to me but yet I feel like I have known you longer. I think it is our shared beliefs, ideas, and mission in life is what links us together.
October 10, 2007 at 6:28 am
Ginger
>>>>Do you believe that we meet people at certain time in our lives at certain place for a reason?
Karmadiva, I’m glad that we met, I do believe that there’s a reason as to why people meet, and a lot of people that I met on the internet, some I only knew them by their pen name, made a difference in my life one way or another, but not all that I met have been positive experience but the negative ones are lesson that made lasting impression in our lives as well. But I do believe that we should be cautious as to who we meet, especially on the Internet, you knew their face (or pen name) but not their heart or intention, just keep in mind that things are not always what it seems.